How the State Established Fine Art and Why Figurative Painters are Underdogs in the Art World

How can one secure the independence of culture? Watch Jan-Ove Tuv's conversation with the Norwegian art sociologist Dag Solhjell who co-authored "On Kitsch" in 2002, subsequently publishing four volumes on cultural politics in Norway. On the basis of his recent book "Dette er kunst" (This is Art), Solhjell describes what he calls "pointing", which denotes how the Curatoriate validates something as a work of art. He also touches on «The Art Police», and describes how the State made ”Art” a natural part of our society, before contrasting the defining principles of Art with those of Kitsch. If the result is politicization of culture, should cultural politics be abolished altogether? The centerpieces for this conversation where "Running Bride" by Odd Nerdrum and a color litograph from "Les Vitraux du Musèe de Salvador Dali a Figueras". The episode was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum, assisted by Nic Thurman and Javier Adams.