Here's what went down at the defence expo protests

An anti-war rally descended into violence in the biggest Victorian police operation in 20 years, according to police. So what happened? Plus, US presidential candidates Donald Trump and Kamala Harris faced off in a chaotic US election debate. And almost a year on since the Voice referendum was defeated, we ask the Minister for Indigenous Australians what the next steps are to support First Nations people.  Guests: Bella Beiraghi, co-chair of the blockade & organiser, Students for Palestine Bec Shrimpton, director of defence strategy and national security, ASPI Senator Malarndirri McCarthy, Minister for Indigenous Australians Dr Emma Shortis, US politics expert, The Australia Institute